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Army conscription vs prison « Thread Started on Feb 3, 2009, 4:35pm »
Knife. gun and violent crime by young offenders seems to be on the increase. There seems to be a worrying lack of disipline and control, and an increase in antisocial behaviour. Do you think it would be advantageous to have compulsory conscription into the armed forces for young offenders where they may learn disipline and respect, as opposed to detention centres and prison where they seem to pick up new skills, drug addiction and enter into an endless cycle of offending?
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Re: Army conscription vs prison « Reply #1 on Feb 5, 2009, 3:05am »
My brother was a brat for years and years and was into all sorts but was never sent to prison or convicted of anything, He has now been in the army since he was 18 so about 6 years, he has moved up through the ranks and is now a corporal he is engaged and his first child is on the way. The army makes them take responsiblity for themselves and there actions, prison is way to easy x
My brother was a brat for years and years and was into all sorts but was never sent to prison or convicted of anything, He has now been in the army since he was 18 so about 6 years, he has moved up through the ranks and is now a corporal he is engaged and his first child is on the way. The army makes them take responsiblity for themselves and there actions, prison is way to easy x
I totally agree the Army gives them a responsibility, I think prison is a piece of cake as soon as most of them are out they are in trouble again to go back in it makes no sense at all
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Re: Army conscription vs prison « Reply #3 on Feb 7, 2009, 3:26pm »
Not sure if prison is easy, especially if you end up as someones b*tch lol. It just doesn't seem to help in any rehabilitation only making matter worse.
Re: Army conscription vs prison « Reply #6 on Feb 7, 2009, 8:34pm »
I put under certain circumstances. Dependet on the crime and the person who comminted it. While I think it would help alot of people but you also need to look from the view of the person who as joined the army of his own back, worked hard and is now put with some cocky upstart who doesnt want to be there acting like an idiot.
Not sure if prison is easy, especially if you end up as someones b*tch lol. It just doesn't seem to help in any rehabilitation only making matter worse.
The thought of that makes my skin crawl, and the worst thing is we know it actually goes on
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Re: Army conscription vs prison « Reply #8 on Apr 17, 2009, 2:23am »
A good topic - who wants to go on detachment with someone you don't feel will have your back.
You need to trust your comrades and that is something earned not freely given.
I have to say, new recruits have it so easy at the moment - but then when you tell them they are going on detachment to wherever, they pull a sickie so are signed off. This means someone else has to take their place and there is a good chance they have only just come back from somewhere and were hoping for some family time.
Nowadays i certainly don't feel that being in the services fosters teamwork - it's every man jack for himself (or female, lol).
How would you feel if you were told you were going on a patrol with someone who you knew was an offender who had been on drugs - how do you know if they are fully rehabilitated or will they suffer flashbacks - thats just one example.
On the flip side of the coin however, is the offender who has joined up and has turned his life right around, then volunteers to stay in and makes a career for themselves.
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Re: Army conscription vs prison « Reply #11 on Apr 25, 2009, 3:17am »
Thanks Trixy. i know it sounds a bit off but my point is through personal experience and being in places/situations that you needed to trust who you were with 100%. No room for doubt.
I do agree with Pates post though - introduce army discipline into prisons.
One of the postings i had was Colchester at Roman way barracks - the 'glasshouse' was just across the road from us and you could hear some of the discipline that went on Depending what you were there for, depended on what section you went to. I had a friend who went for 14 days - done 4 sessions foot drill a day, 2/3 sessions of physical training and then all the inspections etc in between. He came out, done his physical training instructor course, got promoted and always said it was that 'stint in the nick' that done it.
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Depending what you were there for, depended on what section you went to. I had a friend who went for 14 days - done 4 sessions foot drill a day, 2/3 sessions of physical training and then all the inspections etc in between. He came out, done his physical training instructor course, got promoted and always said it was that 'stint in the nick' that done it.![[image]](http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr245/thedogspot/smilies/ohmy.gif "[image]")
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